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Petronella Jackson's avatar

From Lucy’s sentencing, I take the simple reason for the harshness that she is a Tory councillors wife. This sentence has separated her from her child, it’s also affected her husband who is not well. More worrying is, it’s taken her ability to continue her child care business away from her as her DBS will be removed for safeguarding children concerns. I certainly hope this blows up in Starmer and the Labour party’s faces… and the very left judicial system.

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Jeremy Wickins's avatar

I think you are correct. Also, being a woman. From a certain perspective, she was the perfect example to use. It really does have a very bad smell to it.

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Donna's avatar

I wish I had been one of the lawyers interviewed by Alison. I would have told her straight that I don’t even believe Lucy committed an offence. I have been a senior prosecutor for donkeys years (including during the Starmer years) and I would have struggled to come to the conclusion that there was sufficient evidence to prosecute. Even if I had concluded there was sufficient evidence, I would then have applied the Code and come to the conclusion that it was not in the public interest to charge her. At most, I may have considered a caution. There were so many mitigating factors against prosecution. I always balance words used against the need for freedom of speech. I think it’s a pretty high bar. She wasn’t directing people to burn anything down, she simply said she didn’t care if they did. Quite frankly, she is allowed to voice that opinion. It is not, and nor should it be a crime.

I am in no doubt that Lucy is a political prisoner. I am shocked she was prosecuted, disgusted that the Bail Act was not applied (she was not a bail risk) and still traumatised at the length of her sentence. And just when I could feel no more anger and shame, I learn she is being refused leave to return for home visits.

This was the first time I have witnessed lawfare; every aspect of the criminal justice system was acting in unison against its own citizens. It came from Starmer to the judges and it trickled down to the police and DPP. Both actively made announcements that they were coming for us; it may be days, weeks or months, but rest assured, they were coming.

Lucy should not have been charged, and she certainly should have been bailed and ought to have received a conditional discharge or suspended sentence.

I would just like to tell Lucy I’m sorry. I’m sorry she was the one the state chose to make an example of, and continues to make an example of. I just hope that she is strong enough to see her sentence through. I want her to know, we do not believe her to be racist. She felt like the rest of us. And when she comes out, we will all wrap our arms around her and her family. We will make it better.

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Starmer did this. Of that I have no doubt, nor over the belief that he is personality disordered. Too many symptoms chime, never mind the dead eyes.

We meet others through their eyes; we meet each other's soul that way.

So empty eyes are not right...

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Suzanne Atkinson's avatar

Starmer definitely did this, the man is a racist!

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

Think he's personality disordered...

Clearly no empathy

Bristles when challenged

Can't bear to be laughed at - viz. The TV audience that laughed at his son of a toolmaker - he never used that again.

Pathological liar

No inner life - admits he doesn't read or do art and media

Then those blank eyes...

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Peter's avatar

The UK judiciary seems to be slipping back into the mindset of the 18th century, when grim, pensioner-aged judges handed down vindictive sentences to rebellious Scots during the wars of independence. Back then, justice was a blunt instrument wielded by the state to crush dissent and it’s hard not to see echoes of that today. Now, rather than open rebellion, it's individuals defying modern government decrees around so-called "hate speech" who face the wrath of the bench. The dungeons may be gone, but the spirit of suppression remains.

Today’s sentences aren’t enforced with chains and stone cells, but with suspended convictions, digital silencing, loss of livelihood, and the slow, grinding machinery of character assassination. It’s a modern pillory just as effective in deterring public defiance, without the overt spectacle. The robes may be the same, but the methods have evolved.

We were told these laws were meant to protect, but increasingly they seem weaponised to punish thoughtcrime to make examples of those who challenge the prevailing orthodoxy. If freedom of speech only protects those who echo the views of the powerful, then it's not freedom at all. What we’re witnessing may not be justice in principle, but rule by fear in practice.

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GadflyBytes's avatar

It’s become incredibly difficult to stomach watching or reading about the goings on in the UK.

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JMButler's avatar

This wasn't justice. It was an activist judge doing lawfare, and be damned to the consequences and the public reaction.

The Labour government should be utterly ashamed to still be acting like fascists.

I hope the Free Speech Union wipes the floor with them and their legal team.

My disgust for the authorities knows no bounds.

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TrentonUK's avatar

I hope Reform wipes them out at the next election.

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The Plucky Welshman's avatar

It's pretty obvious two tier kier influenced the judiciary with his request for 'substantiative sentencing,' and they were happy to oblige! When all of these people jailed for tweets come out of prison and are able to tell their stories this will put an end to Two Tier and his cronies. It's the biggest scandal in the world and it's yet to be told!

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Charles Chevalier's avatar

He sent a political message via the media, and no doubt behind closed doors activated his networks in the criminal justice system and judiciary, for harsh sentences.

I fkn hate the bastard with all my being.

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Dougie 4's avatar

This case is an appalling example of two-tier justice and the sentence is undoubtedly excessive.

Nevertheless, permit me to point out that your implied criticism of the use of this sentence to deter others is misplaced.

It is long-established in our justice system that sentencing has three potential objectives, at least one of which - but often all three - is present in each case. First, to protect the public by imprisoning the offender so that he cannot re-offend. Second, to punish the offender. Third, to deter others from offending. This is known as an exemplary punishment, i.e. it is an example to others. The death penalty was, of course, the ultimate exemplary punishment.

So, while I agree that the Connolly case is a very worrying one, there is a legitimate place for deterrent punishments in our legal system.

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JJ Starky's avatar

can see ur point dougie. it's just very curious that that deterrence principle only seems to apply in select cases

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Dougie 4's avatar

Indeed. That's two-tier justice!

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Paul's avatar

Another political sentence. LAWFARE.

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Dollyboy's avatar

Lucy is legend. All hail Lucy! With each second of her incarceration she grows more magnificent. I salute you Lucy. You are completely in the right and you have already won.

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Julie Preece's avatar

Hopefully theFSU will get Avery large compensation payment for Lucy. Won’t remove the horror but hopefully Lucy will-lead the charge. This government is despicable.

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Kat Harvey's avatar

I hope that one day our unaccountable judiciary are held publicly responsible for this mockery of justice and are made to pay a harder term than Lucy. We want to know WHO put pressure on them?

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Jeremy Poynton's avatar

The process is often the real punishment

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Peter Kay's avatar

The reason Lucy received such a Draconian sentence is because she had already committed the added crime of being married to a Conservative councillor.

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Baldmichael's avatar

Many thanks for flagging this up. It is interesting that there is Lucy Letby and the evidence she was a scape goat and now another Lucy tarnished.

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GH's avatar

Recommending burning people alive is what the lovely, kind, sweet natured Lucy was advocating. Saying ‘For all I care’ is not being indifferent, it is permissive. She left the tweet there for four hours and instead of apologising just went on about how she would ‘play the mental health card’. The poor families you refer to are not the illegal immigrant ones being burned to death in her head. You seem to think it OK to disparage ‘illegal’ (incorrectly identified) immigrants as long as they are distinguished from ‘legal’ ones.

The tweet was utterly sickening and treating it as if it were just normal conversation is appalling.

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Toffeepud's avatar

Just when you think you can't hate Stoma the soulless psychopath any more, you read this. Poor Lucy, I hope the Free Speech Union does get her freed, but I'm not holding my breath. Pure evil is behind this, pure evil.

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Friar Tuck's avatar

The list of the MPs who are pushing for Digital ID

The list of traitors who want to enslave us all in the Digital ID system.

https://x.com/LabourGrowth/status/1909499797112844511

Also included is the letter claiming their justification which includes Digital ID to solve Illegal Immigration. They also claim it will help people to access NHS services 😒

If you recognise any MPs from your areas would be good to highlight which areas they're betraying that they're claiming to represent.

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