This is a disgraceful decision in keeping with Labour's command and control ideology. The US should stop all support for the UK, in terms of military, intelligence or whatever else they offer until this and other anti privacy methods have been rectified. In the meantime we should all ask Yvette Cooper if we can go through her phone, or does this transparency only go one way!
I don't think Yvette Cooper or Keir Starmer understand how modern technology works so I don't think they have any clue about what they have done. They want to be able to snoop on what people say to each other and tech companies haven't let them. So they've introduced a law without understanding what that means. Let's be honest, does anyone know how their TV works, let alone their mobile phone?!
Presumably, the "dodgy" people will stop using Apple, the "concerned" people will stop using Apple and the "not bothered/nothing to hide/nothing to fear" will carry on until the police knock at their door because they used an unacceptable term in an online chat to a friend.
I’ve just bought a brand new iPhone. Thinking of ditching it for a Nokia. Starmer and Cooper will use our information for anything that suits them. There must be a way round this. I’m sure some advice will come out in the next few days. In the meantime, I’m coming out of iCloud. I will keep my info on my phone and back it up.
This is incorrect. Apple have withdrawn the advanced protection for uk users. The data is still encrypted end to end. The problem is that for the standard encryption Apple have the key for the data at rest, ie on their servers, when users don’t opt for advanced protection. The uk government will still require a warrant to access this so they can’t spy in an ad hoc way. That said, we will now rely on Apple pushing back against frivolous requests. Not good.
Are you sure it's still end-to-end? Read several data expert's takes and they said that the data will still be “encrypted”, but not “end-to-end"—with Apple obviously holding the decryption key.
The effect ultimately makes the private data accessible to Apple, to the government and any hackers/insiders who would again compromise Apple.
I am sure. Apple already hold the key which helps users recover data if they forget their password. With Advanced Protection the key sits on your phone so even Apple can’t decode.
The UK is in the hands of a minority revolutionary government. Underneath the sludge of democratic platitudes greedy and unscrupulous politicians are destroying the last few safeguards in what has become the model of that curious paradox: the democratic dictatorship.
A better question to ask is why didn't Apple fight it in the courts?
Warrants are required at all levels and even the half-blind judges could have seen this was a giant fishing expedition for users' data; even they've ruled against mass dragnet surveillance of innocents in the past, and I think Apple could argue it is an extremely burdensome request, outside the norm.
Apple didn't contest it. They just pretended to be pro-privacy and then turned it off, meaning the data is now not only accessible to the UK government but literally everybody else too.
This is a disgraceful decision in keeping with Labour's command and control ideology. The US should stop all support for the UK, in terms of military, intelligence or whatever else they offer until this and other anti privacy methods have been rectified. In the meantime we should all ask Yvette Cooper if we can go through her phone, or does this transparency only go one way!
I don't think Yvette Cooper or Keir Starmer understand how modern technology works so I don't think they have any clue about what they have done. They want to be able to snoop on what people say to each other and tech companies haven't let them. So they've introduced a law without understanding what that means. Let's be honest, does anyone know how their TV works, let alone their mobile phone?!
Presumably, the "dodgy" people will stop using Apple, the "concerned" people will stop using Apple and the "not bothered/nothing to hide/nothing to fear" will carry on until the police knock at their door because they used an unacceptable term in an online chat to a friend.
I’ve just bought a brand new iPhone. Thinking of ditching it for a Nokia. Starmer and Cooper will use our information for anything that suits them. There must be a way round this. I’m sure some advice will come out in the next few days. In the meantime, I’m coming out of iCloud. I will keep my info on my phone and back it up.
Don't back it up to your windows PC, not unless you've disabled OneDrive and all of the other snooping measures on it.
Thanks for the tip 👍
Everyone should boycott Apple, ditch them like a hot potato! I will be!
this is disgusting! nobody voted for this . lm so glad l have left the UK. Starmer and his bunch of dictators have gone way too far !!
ls there any way this can be challenged as a human rights issue?
This is incorrect. Apple have withdrawn the advanced protection for uk users. The data is still encrypted end to end. The problem is that for the standard encryption Apple have the key for the data at rest, ie on their servers, when users don’t opt for advanced protection. The uk government will still require a warrant to access this so they can’t spy in an ad hoc way. That said, we will now rely on Apple pushing back against frivolous requests. Not good.
Are you sure it's still end-to-end? Read several data expert's takes and they said that the data will still be “encrypted”, but not “end-to-end"—with Apple obviously holding the decryption key.
The effect ultimately makes the private data accessible to Apple, to the government and any hackers/insiders who would again compromise Apple.
I am sure. Apple already hold the key which helps users recover data if they forget their password. With Advanced Protection the key sits on your phone so even Apple can’t decode.
The UK is in the hands of a minority revolutionary government. Underneath the sludge of democratic platitudes greedy and unscrupulous politicians are destroying the last few safeguards in what has become the model of that curious paradox: the democratic dictatorship.
A better question to ask is why didn't Apple fight it in the courts?
Warrants are required at all levels and even the half-blind judges could have seen this was a giant fishing expedition for users' data; even they've ruled against mass dragnet surveillance of innocents in the past, and I think Apple could argue it is an extremely burdensome request, outside the norm.
Apple didn't contest it. They just pretended to be pro-privacy and then turned it off, meaning the data is now not only accessible to the UK government but literally everybody else too.
Would buying something like a synology NAS help replace iCloud? At a cost but no subscriptions…