In order to be a racist .. you have to single out the race of the individual/s… but to rant about migrants without knowing which country they originated from.. cannot be labelled as racist… merely as anti immigrant…. And this fuzzing of description should not allowed in a court of law to convict someone of a racial crime to anyone who really voiced protest against the increasing number of economic migrants taking tax payers money whilst the government penalise the people who were born and bred here… in order to fund such actions.
deftly put. the lines, for me at least, have to be A LOT clearer in order to build back any public trust/confidence in the system. this case poses yet more inconsistency: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3yzy44gqo
The moral of this article is when interviewed by the police refuse to comment until you have a solicitor present. Never engage in a plea bargain without a solicitor present. Basically tell the police to foxtrot oscar.
“However, when the punishment for words eclipses that of violence, we have an issue.” Well put. Across the pond, we have an important election looming with our formerly rock solid Constitution on the line. It is hard to believe that our first Amendment is under assault but it is. Freedom of Speech…I never thought to appreciate it so much as in these times.
Why aren’t they showing us photos of these innocent people when they were children like they did with the murderer.? The govt is kind to murderers & cruel to old age pensioners, farmers & murdered children.
Having been a previous leader of the Crime prosecution service, Starmer with probably know well and be on first name terms with most of today’s lawyers, barristers and judiciary.
— “INTELLIGENCE” I S NEVER A REQUIREMENT OF A CIVIL “SERVANT” - WHO IS SAID TO SERVE THE WHOLE “ PUBLIC” , WHICH , OF COURSE, THEY NEVER DO…!!!
-THE “SERVANT” PERSONALLY PROJECTS THEIR OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS, AND, OPINIONS, USING SOME OF POPULAR LEGAL JARGON
— TO “POWER-PLAY” THEIR “S E L F-MADE -
ELEVATED POSITIONS” - LITERALLY PHYSICALLY HIGHER UP THAN THE CITIZENS STANDING ON THE F L O O R , … T O “PROJECT ONTO THE CITIZENRY THEIR OWN PERSONAL WEAKNESSES - AS CIVIL SERVANTS “ --
“I L L E GA L L Y” - AND, … AGAINST THE VERY PEOPLE THAT THROUGH THEIR OWN TAX-MONIES, P A Y THE SALARIES OF THE NOT-SO “ CIVIL SERVANTS “ ….!!!!!
THIS IS N O T AT ALL
L E G A L IN A N Y WAY …! !
AND, “WE, THE P E O P L E …” — ARE THEREBY ROBBED … 👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👀
"Lynch received a prison sentence of 2 years and 8 months despite documented health issues, including diabetes, thyroid problems, angina, and a recent heart attack—all raising questions about his capacity to withstand incarceration. "
In my view, he was very foolish to enter any potentially physical confrontation with that list of health issues. As for the others, yes, they were guilty of incitement to violence and as far as I am concerned, they were made an example of to deter others - which, given the extreme seriousness of the threat to life and public order, was not an unreasonable disposition. Live by hate -speech, and get banged up for it. Seems fair to me.
appreciate the comment, even though you disagree. i guess the concept of hate speech and its definition is part of the problem for me. in a truly free society people should be allowed to hate, love, like, dislike what they want and voice it. the interpretation and application of "hate" by police, the cps, and judiciary seems to vary too much.
Philosophers say that "crying FIRE FIRE FIRE" in a crowded theatre is an example of the limits of freedom of speech. That arson attack on the asylum seekers hotel - and the violence shown to the police - was incredibly serious. No, I do not support illegal immigration, but that does not give anyone the right to incite murder.
because that's exactly what i said. Coldaxx you seem to suffer from psychosis, particularly given your history of comments. you might want to see a doctor.
In order to be a racist .. you have to single out the race of the individual/s… but to rant about migrants without knowing which country they originated from.. cannot be labelled as racist… merely as anti immigrant…. And this fuzzing of description should not allowed in a court of law to convict someone of a racial crime to anyone who really voiced protest against the increasing number of economic migrants taking tax payers money whilst the government penalise the people who were born and bred here… in order to fund such actions.
deftly put. the lines, for me at least, have to be A LOT clearer in order to build back any public trust/confidence in the system. this case poses yet more inconsistency: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly3yzy44gqo
The moral of this article is when interviewed by the police refuse to comment until you have a solicitor present. Never engage in a plea bargain without a solicitor present. Basically tell the police to foxtrot oscar.
“However, when the punishment for words eclipses that of violence, we have an issue.” Well put. Across the pond, we have an important election looming with our formerly rock solid Constitution on the line. It is hard to believe that our first Amendment is under assault but it is. Freedom of Speech…I never thought to appreciate it so much as in these times.
Why aren’t they showing us photos of these innocent people when they were children like they did with the murderer.? The govt is kind to murderers & cruel to old age pensioners, farmers & murdered children.
RIP Peter Lynch Islamic blasphemy laws communism has infiltrated our Civil Service and government by the sound of things
What has this country come to🥺
Having been a previous leader of the Crime prosecution service, Starmer with probably know well and be on first name terms with most of today’s lawyers, barristers and judiciary.
— “INTELLIGENCE” I S NEVER A REQUIREMENT OF A CIVIL “SERVANT” - WHO IS SAID TO SERVE THE WHOLE “ PUBLIC” , WHICH , OF COURSE, THEY NEVER DO…!!!
-THE “SERVANT” PERSONALLY PROJECTS THEIR OWN PERSONAL FEELINGS, AND, OPINIONS, USING SOME OF POPULAR LEGAL JARGON
— TO “POWER-PLAY” THEIR “S E L F-MADE -
ELEVATED POSITIONS” - LITERALLY PHYSICALLY HIGHER UP THAN THE CITIZENS STANDING ON THE F L O O R , … T O “PROJECT ONTO THE CITIZENRY THEIR OWN PERSONAL WEAKNESSES - AS CIVIL SERVANTS “ --
“I L L E GA L L Y” - AND, … AGAINST THE VERY PEOPLE THAT THROUGH THEIR OWN TAX-MONIES, P A Y THE SALARIES OF THE NOT-SO “ CIVIL SERVANTS “ ….!!!!!
THIS IS N O T AT ALL
L E G A L IN A N Y WAY …! !
AND, “WE, THE P E O P L E …” — ARE THEREBY ROBBED … 👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👀
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You’re saying that incitement to violence is not an act of violence?
that fact that you have to differentiate between the two shows that it is not 🤦♂️
That statement does not work logically. Try again.
"Lynch received a prison sentence of 2 years and 8 months despite documented health issues, including diabetes, thyroid problems, angina, and a recent heart attack—all raising questions about his capacity to withstand incarceration. "
In my view, he was very foolish to enter any potentially physical confrontation with that list of health issues. As for the others, yes, they were guilty of incitement to violence and as far as I am concerned, they were made an example of to deter others - which, given the extreme seriousness of the threat to life and public order, was not an unreasonable disposition. Live by hate -speech, and get banged up for it. Seems fair to me.
appreciate the comment, even though you disagree. i guess the concept of hate speech and its definition is part of the problem for me. in a truly free society people should be allowed to hate, love, like, dislike what they want and voice it. the interpretation and application of "hate" by police, the cps, and judiciary seems to vary too much.
Philosophers say that "crying FIRE FIRE FIRE" in a crowded theatre is an example of the limits of freedom of speech. That arson attack on the asylum seekers hotel - and the violence shown to the police - was incredibly serious. No, I do not support illegal immigration, but that does not give anyone the right to incite murder.
JJ Starky thinks it does (as long as the victims have brown skin).
because that's exactly what i said. Coldaxx you seem to suffer from psychosis, particularly given your history of comments. you might want to see a doctor.
Spot on freedom of speech and expression is a basic human right within a democratic society no matter who dislikes or is upset by the comments 😩